Sunday Trading laws Options

[Invader Zim]

As Sunday is now the second busiest shopping day - do members support the call for a relaxing permanently of the sunday trading laws ?

I do work in retail - and I do work some Sundays - they are like a normal working day to me - I still get my 2 days off during the week.

The Government have relaxed Sunday trading until early Sept

So fellow forum members over to u

[Parsifal]

Don't you have to go to church on Sunday?

[Humpty Dumpty]

As Sunday is now the second busiest shopping day - do members support the call for a relaxing permanently of the sunday trading laws ?

I do work in retail - and I do work some Sundays - they are like a normal working day to me - I still get my 2 days off during the week.

The Government have relaxed Sunday trading until early Sept

So fellow forum members over to u

I think there are only two days in the year when there is no trading, Christmas Day and Easter Sunday. Even the restrictive hours only effect big stores, convenience stores open late. Given the amount of online shopping and the 5 hours on Sunday I don't really see the need for shops to be open longer.

[AndyJ]

I think it's great. The big 24/7 supermarkets are always so packed on Sunday mornings/afternoons and I admit I get a bit panicked sometimes knowing they will be closed for a few hours! It's silly really.

Also people need jobs so I don't see any negative points to be honest. I think we've been heading that way for a while now. May be hard for smaller businesses actually to pay someone for those hours...

[CyanIsland]

Yes! I always food shop late at night and I have found Tescos after 11 pm on Sundays to be the quietest night, so I'm all for it.

[RyanMag]

As Sunday is now the second busiest shopping day - do members support the call for a relaxing permanently of the sunday trading laws ?

Yes. All 7 days should be the same.

[sanitynotincluded]

I'm sure that you'll all be amazed to learn that I consider governments dictating when shops may open to be a disgraceful imposition.

[Parsifal]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

[Roger Mellie]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

I'm intrigued to know if there are there such rules in New York, "the city that never sleeps"?

[Nosferatu]

Don't you have to go to church on Sunday?

No.

Personally I think its utterly ridiculous that the supermarkets have to close at a certain time on a sunday - if people want to work and people want to shop then I see no logical reason for the shops to be forced to close.

[Parsifal]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

I'm intrigued to know if there are there such rules in New York, "the city that never sleeps"?

Of course there are!

The city has zoning however. For example, the huge bright lit signs in Times Square are on 24/7. But the city requires a permit for a lit sign (oh! the government intrusion!) and the rules vary by neighborhood according to how they are zoned. Rest assured that a lage, multi-story blinking Coca-Cola sign is not allowed in a residential neighborhood. (government intrusion! )

Similarly, there are noise rules. (government intrusion! ) For example honking your car horn in other than an emergency will get you a $300 fine (if you're caught, which is rare. Taxi drivers do it all day long). Cars playing loud boom boxes late at night while people are trying to sleep will also earn a fine. Night clubs which go until 4am or longer also are subject to limitations on street noise. The classier ones tend not to be a problem.

Any problems with that?

I think we should get back to Sunday trading laws now.

This post has been edited by Parsifal: Aug 17 2012, 21:02

[Kev]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

I'm intrigued to know if there are there such rules in New York, "the city that never sleeps"?

Of course there are!

The city has zoning however. For example, the huge bright lit signs in Times Square are on 24/7. But the city requires a permit for a lit sign (oh! the government intrusion!) and the rules vary by neighborhood according to how they are zoned. Rest assured that a lage, multi-story blinking Coca-Cola sign is not allowed in a residential neighborhood. (government intrusion! )

Similarly, there are noise rules. (government intrusion! ) For example honking your car horn in other than an emergency will get you a $300 fine (if you're caught, which is rare. Taxi drivers do it all day long). Cars playing loud boom boxes late at night while people are trying to sleep will also earn a fine. Night clubs which go until 4am or longer also are subject to limitations on street noise. The classier ones tend not to be a problem.

Any problems with that?

I think we should get back to Sunday trading laws now.

Such a left-wing mindset, though. The gubmmint is too in you buisness.

[Parsifal]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

I'm intrigued to know if there are there such rules in New York, "the city that never sleeps"?

Of course there are!

The city has zoning however. For example, the huge bright lit signs in Times Square are on 24/7. But the city requires a permit for a lit sign (oh! the government intrusion!) and the rules vary by neighborhood according to how they are zoned. Rest assured that a lage, multi-story blinking Coca-Cola sign is not allowed in a residential neighborhood. (government intrusion! )

Similarly, there are noise rules. (government intrusion! ) For example honking your car horn in other than an emergency will get you a $300 fine (if you're caught, which is rare. Taxi drivers do it all day long). Cars playing loud boom boxes late at night while people are trying to sleep will also earn a fine. Night clubs which go until 4am or longer also are subject to limitations on street noise. The classier ones tend not to be a problem.

Any problems with that?

I think we should get back to Sunday trading laws now.

Such a left-wing mindset, though. The gubmmint is too in you buisness.

Ironically, if you visit Salt Lake City, Utah (of all places!!!) there are no restaurants (or anything else!) open on Sunday except in the hotels. Hotel restaurants are the only place that an out-of-towner can get something to eat all day Sunday in that town.

I guess the Republicans like to cherry-pick their government intrusions.

[Kev]

What's Saturday night like in Jeddah?

[Roger Mellie]

Of course there are!
Any problems with that?

No problems at all (not on my part anyway)-- in fact your Noris Cole impersonation ever amuses me. It was just that you when mentioned noise control and brightly lit signs, I just wondered you fared in NYC, given there's a lot of sound and bright signs-- in a city known for its 24-hour culture. I merely asked a sincere question about that, given that I'm not a wiseacre. Thanks for answering all the same, interesting to read about all those diktats and controls (I can now see why you like living there.)

Although given that the NYC authorities have imposed restrictions on loud noise-emitting sources, such as honking car horns, booming beatboxes-- I'm just wondering how you've managed to avoid government intrusion.

This post has been edited by Roger Mellie: Aug 17 2012, 21:57

[Humpty Dumpty]

I'm sure that you'll all be amazed to learn that I consider governments dictating when shops may open to be a disgraceful imposition.

You are so right, I feel sure that stopping 7 years olds sweeping chimneys and working in mills was a terrible infringement to their right to help support their families, let's remove all legislation that interferes with trade, commerce and industry, then we might be able to compete with imports manufactured in China for the Poundshop.

[sanitynotincluded]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

I'm intrigued to know if there are there such rules in New York, "the city that never sleeps"?

It's typical leftie ignorance. The rules he refers to in his pitiful attempt to be clever are supported by liberals as necessary to protect the individual freedoms of those who would otherwise suffer the noise et c.

[dixie]

Don't you have to go to church on Sunday?

No.

Personally I think its utterly ridiculous that the supermarkets have to close at a certain time on a sunday - if people want to work and people want to shop then I see no logical reason for the shops to be forced to close.

Part of the reason for implementing the six hour rule was so the smaller shops could compete by being able to open at one of the few times when supermarkets can't.


The legislations states "those with a relevant floor area in excess of 280 square metres to open for up to six hours on Sunday between the hours of 10 am and 6 pm. Small shops, those with an area of below 280 square metres, are free to set their own Sunday trading times.


And it may surprise people to know that Friday is actually up there with Saturday and Sunday as the busiest days of the week and in terms of taking the most money. On Friday between 4pm and 8pm, when most people finish work for the weekend, supermarkets are at their busiest because people shop when they finish so they can enjoy the rest of their weekend without having to deal with their weekly shop.

[Nosferatu]

Don't you have to go to church on Sunday?

No.

Personally I think its utterly ridiculous that the supermarkets have to close at a certain time on a sunday - if people want to work and people want to shop then I see no logical reason for the shops to be forced to close.

Part of the reason for implementing the six hour rule was so the smaller shops could compete by being able to open at one of the few times when supermarkets can't.

The problem is though that most of these smaller shops don't actually compete as their prices are far too high in comparison to the supermarkets.

[Parsifal]

I'm sure that Libertarians find it disgraceful that governments impose rules on noise control, bright lit signs through the night, disturbing the peace, etc. Such impositions on individual freedom.

I'm intrigued to know if there are there such rules in New York, "the city that never sleeps"?

It's typical leftie ignorance. The rules he refers to in his pitiful attempt to be clever are supported by liberals as necessary to protect the individual freedoms of those who would otherwise suffer the noise et c.

Are you suggesting that thos (JOB KILLING! ) "quality of life" regulations are not supported by righties?