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| jumbler |
Aug 1 2012, 23:35
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When you've been around as long as you (or I  ) have, hasn't it occurred that often people do, buy, or create something because they can?? So yeah, it probably is a marketing strategy - pink £/€/$ and all, but someone will really be doing it for the money.  I guess it could come in handy for, well, lot of things, really. Could be an international GAY web portal, or for various pride/LGBT/non-LGBT community sites/AIDS-HIV support. And the usual sort of pubs/clubs/sex shops/porn/dating/sex-sites. The possibilities are endless.  So the objections are mainly geared towards a '.gay' domain, as opposed to anything??  I had read that .gay was one of the proposed extensions, but it was just part of a long, long list (actually, not as long a list as I expected; other contenders were .melbourne, .sydney, and .hsbc, barclays etc). This post has been edited by jumbler: Aug 1 2012, 23:41
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| molley |
Aug 1 2012, 23:50
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QUOTE(jumbler @ Aug 2 2012, 00:35)  When you've been around as long as you (or I  ) have, hasn't it occurred that often people do, buy, or create something because they can?? So yeah, it probably is a marketing strategy - pink £/€/$ and all, but someone will really be doing it for the money.  I guess it could come in handy for, well, lot of things, really. Could be an international GAY web portal, or for various pride/LGBT/non-LGBT community sites/AIDS-HIV support. And the usual sort of pubs/clubs/sex shops/porn/dating/sex-sites. The possibilities are endless.  So the objections are mainly geared towards a '.gay' domain, as opposed to anything??  I had read that .gay was one of the proposed extensions, but it was just part of a long, long list (actually, not as long a list as I expected; other contenders were .melbourne, .sydney, and .hsbc, barclays etc). Here's the article that was posted on Twitter http://domainincite.com/9883-first-anti-ga...pponent-emergesAND http://www.dotwhat.co/
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| jumbler |
Aug 2 2012, 03:42
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QUOTE(devynethang @ Aug 2 2012, 03:50)  I'm agin it. Its only a few steps away from a leper colony. Depends what you think, really. But I think being gay's something to be proud of.  Not entirely in a gay pride sort of way, but just something to be proud of being - because it's part of what you are. 
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| molley |
Aug 2 2012, 09:38
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QUOTE(jumbler @ Aug 2 2012, 04:42)  QUOTE(devynethang @ Aug 2 2012, 03:50)  I'm agin it. Its only a few steps away from a leper colony. Depends what you think, really. But I think being gay's something to be proud of.  Not entirely in a gay pride sort of way, but just something to be proud of being - because it's part of what you are.  You mean like being proud of being left-handed? I don't get this being proud of " being gay" or " being Scottish" . I'm both but it's just something that happened and I had nothing to do with making it happen.
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| stretchmonkey |
Aug 2 2012, 10:08
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QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 10:38)  QUOTE(jumbler @ Aug 2 2012, 04:42)  QUOTE(devynethang @ Aug 2 2012, 03:50)  I'm agin it. Its only a few steps away from a leper colony. Depends what you think, really. But I think being gay's something to be proud of.  Not entirely in a gay pride sort of way, but just something to be proud of being - because it's part of what you are.  You mean like being proud of being left-handed? I don't get this being proud of " being gay" or " being Scottish" . I'm both but it's just something that happened and I had nothing to do with making it happen. Proud of being gay? Nope. Proud of what some gay people are doing today or have done in history? Yup.
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| molley |
Aug 2 2012, 10:49
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QUOTE(stretchmonkey @ Aug 2 2012, 11:08)  QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 10:38)  QUOTE(jumbler @ Aug 2 2012, 04:42)  QUOTE(devynethang @ Aug 2 2012, 03:50)  I'm agin it. Its only a few steps away from a leper colony. Depends what you think, really. But I think being gay's something to be proud of.  Not entirely in a gay pride sort of way, but just something to be proud of being - because it's part of what you are.  You mean like being proud of being left-handed? I don't get this being proud of " being gay" or " being Scottish" . I'm both but it's just something that happened and I had nothing to do with making it happen. Proud of being gay? Nope. Proud of what some gay people are doing today or have done in history? Yup. Ah now you're talking . Different kettle of fish ( and chips) 
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| jumbler |
Aug 2 2012, 11:55
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QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 10:38)  QUOTE(jumbler @ Aug 2 2012, 04:42)  QUOTE(devynethang @ Aug 2 2012, 03:50)  I'm agin it. Its only a few steps away from a leper colony. Depends what you think, really. But I think being gay's something to be proud of.  Not entirely in a gay pride sort of way, but just something to be proud of being - because it's part of what you are.  You mean like being proud of being left-handed? I don't get this being proud of " being gay" or " being Scottish" . I'm both but it's just something that happened and I had nothing to do with making it happen. So you're Scottish, eh??  Maybe I ought to chat you up a bit... This post has been edited by jumbler: Aug 2 2012, 11:56
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| molley |
Aug 2 2012, 15:14
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QUOTE(stulancs @ Aug 2 2012, 16:10)  People really don't get why "proud" is used. It's not about being proud per se, it's about being unashamed, and the opposite to shame is pride. That's why we use pride whether we're proud or not.
Can't say I buy that !!! Did you just make that up.  I'm not ashamed of being seen driving an R Reg Mondeo that I own ...should I therefore be proud of owning and driving it . This post has been edited by molley: Aug 2 2012, 15:21
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| stulancs |
Aug 2 2012, 15:26
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QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 16:14)  QUOTE(stulancs @ Aug 2 2012, 16:10)  People really don't get why "proud" is used. It's not about being proud per se, it's about being unashamed, and the opposite to shame is pride. That's why we use pride whether we're proud or not.
Can't say I buy that !!! Did you just make that up.  I'm not ashamed of being seen driving an R Reg Mondeo that I own ...should I therefore be proud of owning and driving it .  Well no I didn't make it up. The point of gay pride back in the days of yore was for gays to publicly say "we're not ashamed". The word "pride" is just a quick way of saying it.
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| Kev |
Aug 2 2012, 19:03
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QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 15:14)  QUOTE(stulancs @ Aug 2 2012, 16:10)  People really don't get why "proud" is used. It's not about being proud per se, it's about being unashamed, and the opposite to shame is pride. That's why we use pride whether we're proud or not.
Can't say I buy that !!! Did you just make that up.  I'm not ashamed of being seen driving an R Reg Mondeo that I own ...should I therefore be proud of owning and driving it .  Are you being discriminated against, or would have in the past, for driving it?
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Aug 2 2012, 19:10
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QUOTE(Kev @ Aug 2 2012, 20:03)  QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 15:14)  QUOTE(stulancs @ Aug 2 2012, 16:10)  People really don't get why "proud" is used. It's not about being proud per se, it's about being unashamed, and the opposite to shame is pride. That's why we use pride whether we're proud or not.
Can't say I buy that !!! Did you just make that up.  I'm not ashamed of being seen driving an R Reg Mondeo that I own ...should I therefore be proud of owning and driving it .  Are you being discriminated against, or would have in the past, for driving it? We don't discriminate against Mondeo drivers, we pity them. As for a .gay domain - I don't really see a need for it, there again I don't really see anything wrong with it either. Perhaps I should register .ambivalent
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| molley |
Aug 2 2012, 19:19
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QUOTE(Kev @ Aug 2 2012, 20:03)  QUOTE(molley @ Aug 2 2012, 15:14)  QUOTE(stulancs @ Aug 2 2012, 16:10)  People really don't get why "proud" is used. It's not about being proud per se, it's about being unashamed, and the opposite to shame is pride. That's why we use pride whether we're proud or not.
Can't say I buy that !!! Did you just make that up.  I'm not ashamed of being seen driving an R Reg Mondeo that I own ...should I therefore be proud of owning and driving it .  Are you being discriminated against, or would have in the past, for driving it? Whats discrimination got to do with a .gay domain creation. Is that your argument for having it ??
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| stretchmonkey |
Aug 3 2012, 07:51
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QUOTE(sanitynotincluded @ Aug 2 2012, 23:03)  Two different questions here. On the .gay thing, let them create it. I hope it dies from indifference, but if people are tacky enough then so be it.
On the pride thing, there is a lot of difference between proud and unashamed. I am utterly unashamed about the fact that I like cock. It is not a source of pride though because it represents no choice on my part and has never required any effort or achievement. I have fingernails as well, should I organise a march for that?
On the achievements of people through history, it's utterly irrelevant. Should I take pride in everything achieved by people with brown hair, or those with size twelve feet?
So the women and men in the 20th Century and before who stood up against gay discrimination and put their lives and reputations on the line don't deserve my "pride" in their achievements? If having "brown hair" (like i've got) had carried thousands of years of hate and discrimination and people had died to show that people with brown hair were human beings too, then likewise.
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| AdrienAsche |
Aug 3 2012, 07:59
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QUOTE(stretchmonkey @ Aug 3 2012, 02:51)  QUOTE(sanitynotincluded @ Aug 2 2012, 23:03)  Two different questions here. On the .gay thing, let them create it. I hope it dies from indifference, but if people are tacky enough then so be it.
On the pride thing, there is a lot of difference between proud and unashamed. I am utterly unashamed about the fact that I like cock. It is not a source of pride though because it represents no choice on my part and has never required any effort or achievement. I have fingernails as well, should I organise a march for that?
On the achievements of people through history, it's utterly irrelevant. Should I take pride in everything achieved by people with brown hair, or those with size twelve feet?
So the women and men in the 20th Century and before who stood up against gay discrimination and put their lives and reputations on the line don't deserve my "pride" in their achievements? If having "brown hair" (like i've got) had carried thousands of years of hate and discrimination and people had died to show that people with brown hair were human beings too, then likewise. They deserve your thanks and celebration, certainly. I think we've stretched the word "pride" to cover a lot of events it shouldn't, in this case, relating it, as sanity put it, with being unashamed. Don't mean to put any words in your mouth, sanity, and I'm sure you'll defend yourself better than I can, but I hate to see you standing alone all the time. Especially when you've said something perfectly sensible.
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