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> Mars Science Lab (Curiosity) landing on 6th August
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post Jul 30 2012, 19:51
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Not long to go now!

Currently en route to the planet, it is scheduled to land in Gale Crater at about 05:31 UTC on August 6, 2012.

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post Jul 30 2012, 23:22
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Wow. ohmy.gif How does it get there so fast?? What sort of rocket/craft is powering it there?? unsure.gif

Or should I be asking, when did it launch?? unsure.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 07:38
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Would it be safe to assume that the Distance From Earth and Distance to Mars figures are "as the crow flies" whereas the Distance Covered and the Distance to go figures are the actual routing?

If not, I don't get the discrepancy in the maths.
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post Jul 31 2012, 08:28
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Jumbler - it was launched 26 November 2011

ATD - the flight path is an arc of a circle. If the spaceship flew in a straight line (e.g. the shortest distance) it would fly straight past Mars as the planets are not stationary objects. smile.gif

i.e. the speed of it is too slow to cover the straight-line distance before Mars will have moved on along its orbit.
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post Jul 31 2012, 09:39
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Really like NASA's treatment of this mission on Twitter, imagining that the craft is actually tweeting the information.

see here ……..

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post Jul 31 2012, 09:49
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QUOTE(ic1male @ Jul 31 2012, 09:28) *

ATD - the flight path is an arc of a circle. If the spaceship flew in a straight line (e.g. the shortest distance) it would fly straight past Mars as the planets are not stationary objects. smile.gif

i.e. the speed of it is too slow to cover the straight-line distance before Mars will have moved on along its orbit.


I imagined that was the case, I just hadn't thought that it would make such a huge difference in the numbers; even though we are talking vast distances to start with.

I'm sure it's not physically practical, but you'd think it would be more efficient to work out where Mars was going to be and fly in a straight-ish line to there, like plotting an intercept vector.

Good job I'm not a rocket scientist really! lol_2.gif

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Not entirely related, but I thought people would be interested....


Pioneer 10 (launched 1972; forty years ago): as of 2009, projections indicate that Pioneer 10 reached 100 astronomical units; (1 astronomical unit (AU) = 93 million miles; distance between Earth and the Sun). At this point, the spacecraft is approximately 271,000 AU from the nearest star, Proxima Centauri.


Pioneer 11 (launched 1973): as of February 8, 2012, Pioneer 11 is about 85.013 astronomical units from the Sun.


Voyager 1 (launched 1977): on February 8, 2012, NASA reported that Voyager 1 is about 120.06973 astronomical units from the Earth and about 119.70479 astronomical units from the Sun. On 15 June 2012, NASA scientists reported that Voyager 1 may be very close to entering interstellar space and becoming the first human-made object to leave the Solar System.


Voyager 2 (launched 1977): as of July 25, 2012, Voyager 2, is currently at a distance of about 99.13 astronomical units from the Sun.


Even though Voyager 1 was launched later than Pioneer 10, it is further than Pioneer.


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New Horizons (launched 2006; projected to reach Pluto in 2015) as of February 12, 2012, was at a distance of 21.99 astronomical units from the Sun and 22.97 astronomical units from Earth, just beyond the orbit of Uranus.

[Source: English Wikipedia]


Carl Sagan would find it wonderful that we have sent out 5 probes that will eventually leave the solar system. Barring any major impacts or other issues, the probes will survive for several thousand or more years.

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Wouldn't they survive indefinitely (the probes, that is). Unless they reach a black hole... unsure.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 01:30
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Well they are made of metal; I don't think so. But they will last a very long time. Either way, something of humanity will continue... unless they hit a black hole or some such, yes... then it's V'ger time [Star Trek: TMP reference].

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post Aug 1 2012, 08:02
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V*GER!

Are those early devices still transmitting data or are they just plowing along with inertia and completely powerless?
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The Pioneers are not transmitting data.


The Voyagers are still transmitting altho it is becoming difficult to hear them.


It's cold and dark for all of them.
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post Aug 6 2012, 06:09
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She's landed! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 6 2012, 06:47
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Safely?
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post Aug 6 2012, 07:06
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YUP

First pictures have come back!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19144464

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post Aug 6 2012, 07:11
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Damn!
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From George Takei:

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post Aug 6 2012, 08:41
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post Aug 6 2012, 08:48
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The photos these landers take are exciting to see but why is there never any video? Is it because that requires too much bandwidth to send between Mars and Earth?
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QUOTE(ic1male @ Aug 6 2012, 08:48) *

The photos these landers take are exciting to see but why is there never any video? Is it because that requires too much bandwidth to send between Mars and Earth?


That's what I'm thinking.
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QUOTE(ic1male @ Aug 6 2012, 09:48) *

The photos these landers take are exciting to see but why is there never any video? Is it because that requires too much bandwidth to send between Mars and Earth?



I think so.

Curiosity does have a HD camera attached, so at least there will be hi resolution images.. I guess too, if it has a fast shutter speed you could collate images into something resembling motion... But is video really necessary?
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