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> Daddy Issues, or that dope I live with
atticus
post Jun 2 2012, 22:26
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Howdy all.

I'm going to use this as a means to rant more so than anything, as it feels slightly easier than punching a wall .. and less painful.

Any advice would be good too but it really is about not punching that wall.

Had a good old fashioned blazin' fight with my Dad today. How to describe my Dad. I'm 29, he was severely drunk for the first 24 of those years.

He never worked, borrowed money from all of his 7 kids, drove my mum into depression, treated her like shit when she got cancer and treated us all like shit since she died of cancer.

Oh and he lives with me now blink.gif Balls!

Now since Mam passed away 10 years ago, I took responsibility over Dad. He sorted out his alcohol problem a few years back, which is great - very proud and all that. He's still a selfish plonker though, not so proud about that. The rest of my family cut ties with him.

That always bugged me a lot. Led to lots of brother and sister issues to go along with my Daddy issues, whole lot of issues really.

After today, I had the epiphany that they were right. Simply put, he's not a very nice man.

He's the kind of man who made my dying mum get out of bed because he wanted to sleep off his hangover. Who told me if anything happens to her, it's my fault and tells people how everything he has bought in our home came from him, um, that would be me.

Now how did I end up stuck with him. Well, I bought a house and thought let bygones be bygones and I said he should move in with me. He's 75 now, so I figured he shouldn't be by his self in his latter years and there was no one else to look after him. Well, except carers and nursing homes but they have it tough enough without dealing with this tool. Plus I've always been, stupidly, family comes first orientated blink.gif Balls again!

So that's how it's played out. My bros and sisters recently started helping out a bit. Which is good but stirs up some anger, resentment and jealousy from me because he likes to declare how fantastic they are and how much better they are than me, and how they should move in too instead of him being stuck with me all the time. Nice!

Now that bugs me, they did nothing for a decade, now they're his idols and I'm the dope who realises that I should of followed their cue and got the fuck away from him.

It's easier to come back once the hard work is done, they told me recently ... I did punch a wall that time.

I'm going to be 30 in January and figure it's my time to live a bit. Travel, have a bit of a life but it's hard to know what to do. I realised today that my Dad is scum, he told me I should be dead instead of Mam ... his face was looking a lot like that wall, but I didn't punch it.

I want gone. But I feel bad about it because I know my family will vanish again and he'll be left alone. They don't like hard work. He's hard work.

I'm confused, worried, angry, sad, depressed about it all and that's far too many emotions for my stupid self to deal with. I punch walls for Christ's sake. I'm too dumb to deal with this. Walls hurt!

Plus my dad doesn't know I'm gay. I never liked him enough to tell him. He might be ok with it, he's had his head up his arse for a long time and seems to get off on it, so who knows. It's funny he always liked my ex - boyfriend Carl. Carl thought Dad was a prick. Smart man that Carl. He also said I'm a doormat for my family to wipe their shitty feet on. Hmmm.

Anyway, that's my rant over. I plan on vanishing for a year, a year to live my life without him in it. Problem is I feel really bad about doing it. Not sure what I should do.

Any advice? Fucking Daddy issues!
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post Jun 2 2012, 22:53
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This requires an easy, one sentence response that it sounds like you already know.

"Put the old cunt in a home, and fuck off".
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post Jun 3 2012, 02:51
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Why feel bad about doing it? Based on what he's saying it's clear he doesn't value or need your support to the extent he wishes you were dead(?!?!). Just give it to him straight that if your siblings are so much better towards him he can (try to) move in with them, failing that, i agree with the above that a home is inevitable because you can't carry on feeling the way you do. Just because he'd be in a home doesn't mean he'd be abandoned, i mean as long as there is someone providing care and doing the hard work i see no reason for your siblings to vanish.
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post Jun 3 2012, 12:04
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It's gotta be the siblings or a home by the sound of it.

Surely the Local Authority would house him.

You gotta live your life.
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post Jun 3 2012, 12:31
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Thanks all.

He had another go at me this morning and that was it really.

I have two weeks holidays now, so I'm heading away. Cue the spoiled brat getting all upset about who will look after him.

Not my problem I told him, ask the rest of your kids, and walked out.

Two weeks of peace and hopefully the kick I need to sort stuff out. Need a clear head, hard to get that being stuck with him.

My sister called me earlier having a rant about how she doesn't have the time to look after him for two weeks. Haha.

Didn't take him long to get in touch with people. Funny how he tells me he can't use a phone anymore bleh.gif

She said he's very upset. Shit happens!


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post Jun 4 2012, 00:43
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Awesomeness! Enjoy your time away and ignore their calls...
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post Jun 5 2012, 12:19
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QUOTE(stulancs @ Jun 2 2012, 23:53) *

This requires an easy, one sentence response that it sounds like you already know.

"Put the old cunt in a home, and fuck off".


Cudnt agree more, think he is a very selfish guy to to and say what he does.

I am a Carer for my elderly Mum but she does appreciate all I do for her, I've not had a full day off from Caring in over two years but I wudnt have it any other way.

Get on your travels fella and keep us all posted on how it goes - you've more than done your bit !!
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post Jun 5 2012, 12:26
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Do your siblings know you're gay?
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post Jun 5 2012, 13:53
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QUOTE(PadSpin @ Jun 5 2012, 13:26) *

Do your siblings know you're gay?


I'm struggling to see how that is relevant to the fact that his Dad is a cunt...

Atticus, I can only repeat what others have already said - I understand that you feel you have a duty to family, but if you had friends who treated you like that you would drop them in a heartbeat. You have to put yourself first for once and do what is right for you.

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post Jun 6 2012, 01:16
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Thanks again everyone.

Yeah, my siblings do know I'm gay. All fine with it as far as I know, not that I see them much.

That's great Neil6969 smile.gif For a long time I took pride in the fact I cared for him but it seem wasteful now. As ATD says, if it was anyone else I wouldn't bother and shouldn't here either. He wasn't there for me as a kid, I was there for him and still am and he's still a nasty person.

He's called me on the phone since. Very nice and wishing me the best on my break. Sounded fake, he probably knows he's crossed the line this time and is freaking out.

Trying not to think about it too much, still have a good few days to figure it out.

Have received more text from my siblings than I have in years. Wondering when I'm back. He must really be wrecking their heads. Sucks for them biggrin.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 07:32
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QUOTE(atticus @ Jun 6 2012, 02:16) *

Have received more text from my siblings than I have in years. Wondering when I'm back. He must really be wrecking their heads. Sucks for them biggrin.gif

Perhaps sit down with your siblings and explain the impact this has had on you - having experienced it for themselves they may be more sympathetic. This may be them helping out more or it may be them deciding with you to put him in a home but either way if you involve them it will reduce the burden on you - this is important for your own wellbeing not just now but in years to come.
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post Jun 6 2012, 07:49
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Thanks for the reply atticus, and what deegee178 says makes a lot of sense too. If you have siblings they should do their share too as ultimately it will impact on your health and lifestyle. Go and enjoy your break as you deffo deserve it, I'm sure your Dad will still be there moaning and blaming etc. when you get back
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post Jun 6 2012, 18:46
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Thanks deegee178. Great advice and I'm putting it to practice.

I told my family today that it's time to discuss what comes next and that it's time for them to step up. Most live 10 minutes away, have no family but refuse to even visit. It's laughable and I told them as such.

They didn't like hearing it but admit they haven't done enough. Which is a huge thing coming from them. It's a nice step forward anyway and I hope it goes well.

It could easily end up with them all screaming at me but I won't let them away with it this time.

That's their usual go to tactic, start an argument so they don't have to own up to their failings.

They can argue with me all they want. Time for them to grow up. He's their father too.
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QUOTE(atticus @ Jun 6 2012, 19:46) *


They can argue with me all they want. Time for them to grow up. He's their father too.


He might be everyone's father.
But he hasn't been a dad to them.
I don't think he deserves anything from anyone.

Maybe I'm harsh. unsure.gif
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No you're not YG. He's a useless dad and person all round.

I never forget that they suffered through it too, but I was with them.

I've done it by myself for a long time now. It's hard being the youngest making decisions about his future, let alone my own. I don't think it's wrong that they should have to play a part this time.
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post Jun 11 2012, 20:54
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Thanks again for the advice everyone.

It's been decided that my Sister will let him stay for 6 months at her home, he will spend the following 6 months at my brothers. Then another sister, brother and so on.

It's not ideal and means a lot of change for him but he was heading for a home If I had my way.

They didn't want that so they've come to this compromise.

Came back today to another roaring argument from him. It didn't phase me that much.

The usual, that I should be ashamed of myself for making him move, how he prefers to be with the others anyway and how they will take much better care of him than I did.

"I'm sure they'll take great care of you until you wish them dead", I told him.

He was really hurt by that. His words - why shouldn't I throw them back in his face.

He then walked away with a newly developed limp blink.gif Another trick of my dad's when he gets upset, he plays the age and health card, so you feel sorry for him. He wasn't limping before that. My words must be powerful blink.gif

That will be it then. He's not far from me anyway and I'll still do my best by him. I just can't live with him anymore.

My siblings weren't very nice about it. They said it was my job to look after him and he deserves better than a nursing home.

I told them that he would have been in a nursing home since the moment Mam died except I took him in. While they did nothing.

Still not sure, why they think it was my job in the first place. I chose to look after him, it doesn't mean that they were exempt from it or that I didn't need help. I asked them for help many times and they always said no. That they were done with him.

Now I'm a bad brother and he deserves better. My head hurts trying to figure that one out.

So I have an angry Father and angry Siblings telling me how crap I am now. Reinventing history as they go on about how much they have done since mam died.

I'm surprisingly OK with it biggrin.gif They belong together. I'm going to enjoy my home for the first time in 10 years.

I will visit him a lot. They told me I better lol_2.gif

I told them I'll try for the same amount as them. Sister : Twice in 10 years,. Brother : Once in 10 years. Brother. 0 time in 10 years. Sister : 0 times in 10 years.

That's how I ended it, watching their faces go all red was kind of funny. The didn't have a comeback because there was none. They realised they did nothing, they have their chance now. If they want to make me the bad son. It's all good.

I'll visit him every day. I know how to take care of him, his meds, his diet. I'll still do all that, even though he doesn't deserve it.

I just can't live with him.

The option for a nursing home is there. Dope that I am, I probably would have paid for that too. Glutton for punishment and all that but it's in their hands now.

I'm still not sure why I feel guilt over my Dad and think he deserves to be treated well. I'm not sure why my siblings think the same now when they haven't for 10 years.

It's a break for me now anyway. I can travel or stay content in my home.

Not that bad. Guilt is still there though for some absurd reason. I'm sure it will pass smile.gif

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post Jun 11 2012, 21:29
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Hi, I'm glad that you've come to a fairer arrangement that gives you space and time to live your life. It's only natural that you'd feel guilty but you don't need to be - its only right that your siblings play their role too.

You've come across as a genuinely nice guy with compassion for your old man even if he does drive you mad - that's a trait to be really proud of!
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You're such an amazing person, seriously.
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Totally agree with the replies from deegee178 & darker pheonix, you come across as a genuine caring guy, and all you say in your last post is true. I believe, rightfully so that your siblings should do their fair share - see how they put up with his ways and rants etc.

Ever heard of the saying 'flogging a willing horse' ?

Good luck with your travels mate, please keep us posted, I for one am genuinely interested as I feel a lot of the peeps who have replied are too
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Remember: having children isn't some kind of insurance policy to look after you in old age.

Remember: having children is a choice and being the child is not a choice and the only strings attached to being an off-spring is a choice.

Life is a one way street, if you pass down it and don't do what you want, then you don't get the same opportunities again.
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