Darren Criss Pictures Blacklisted ? Options

[y0david6]

I was just wondering why Darren Criss pictures have been blacklisted on this forum

This post has been edited by y0david6: Mar 24 2012, 08:57

[ladsnet]

Legal request.

[i love male chests]

That's insane. He's getting a ton of free support and love?

[jumbler]

That's why I made my post the other week.

I understand how the forum works, so I'm not going to question it. But it seems weird, because if you have DC appearing in Glee, or on a poster or magazine or something - which he's actually signed up to promote himself in... it's nuts.

This post has been edited by jumbler: Mar 29 2012, 01:43

[ladsnet]

I cannot go into detail on specific cases, but this is a general explanation of why we blacklist content.


If it's porn or could lead to porn being posted.. we ban it.

Otherwise... we receive lots of requests to remove pictures every week. These vary massively in tone and strength from polite emails to solicitors letters, to full blown 'we will take down the site in 24 hours' notices.
Even though we always remove content when asked, people go about it in different ways. (if anyone is reading this before wanting a removal, I'm sure its easier and cheaper to just drop us a polite email rather than send a 48 page solicitors letter, special delivery from Paris )

How we deal with a ban usually relates to the 'severity' of the request.

If we get an email from a FM or their agent asking that pictures of him in such-a-situation or from such-a-shoot should be taken down then we'll just ban those quite specifically. If we get a notice, and our server hosts get a notice, that if any pics of xxx taken by photographer xxx are EVER shown again on our site, we'll get a multi million dollar lawsuit and the site will be pulled immediately.. then we'll ban that FM entirely as it's not worth risking the entire site for the sake of one famous male.
If that male, or their agent, then contacts us to ask why we've banned him... we can pass on the correspondence we've had.. so hopefully photographer xxx won't get any more business.

As you say, it is strange that in the majority of cases, famous males pose for photoshoots for publicity. The people who own the rights to the pictures then do anything possible to stop them being spread.. thus killing publicity.
In some cases this can be justified by pics being leaked before their magazine release date (for example). This is understandable and often results in polite 'hold back' requests.

There are a lot of people in the media and images industry (unfortunately, many in the 'gay' industry) who seem to have quite severe 'anger management' issues. Some of the emails we receive are shocking in their offensive, abusive content.


Every 'blacklist' is made for a reason, and 99% of the time that reason is to protect the site from closure or fine (that would lead to closure).
At the end of the day it's a case of looking for those pictures elsewhere.. usually on similar sites that don't seem to get as much legal grief as we do.. but that's the price we pay for being so popular and well known I'm afraid.

[Nouvellecosse]

The policy makes a lot of sense and obviously it's necessary to protect the forum, but why do you say you can't go into detail about specific cases? If people are being abusive toward the forum, why shouldn't they at least be held accountable for their conduct?

[YORKSHIRE GUY]

The policy makes a lot of sense and obviously it's necessary to protect the forum, but why do you say you can't go into detail about specific cases? If people are being abusive toward the forum, why shouldn't they at least be held accountable for their conduct?

Whether the correspondence is abusive or polite, it seems clear that the celeb is either not gay-friendly or their agent isn't.

[ladsnet]

In some cases yes... but not all.

I can think of one case in particular where the management of a celeb demanded we stop all pictures and then had to quickly backtrack when it became obvious that the celebs views were somewhat different.

But yes.. in some cases the only reason you can think of.. is that a celeb does not want to be associated in any way with a gay website. Even a kick-ass one like ours

[Nouvellecosse]

My thoughts exactly! Which is why I'd love to know the circumstances behind such requests. If it was just something simple like a magazine not wanting to have pictures revealed before printing, that's understandable. But if it is some stupid bigoted crap, then someone should be accountable for that. If it was the celeb himself, people should be allowed to make an informed decision as to whether or not to continue supporting him. However, if it is just some asshole manager or publicist, then it would really help if the celeb knew what was going on so he'd have the chance to intervene.

[JG220]

Shame, since he seems like a famousmale who is likely to have a lot of nice pictures in the future, and this place is my main source of finding out about these things. Maybe the situation will eventually work out.

I guess there's always the /handsome men/ board on 4chan, but FMF is easier to keep track of. At any rate, I appreciate the open communication about this.

This post has been edited by JG220: Mar 29 2012, 22:22

[daikaioshin]

I can think of one case in particular where the management of a celeb demanded we stop all pictures and then had to quickly backtrack when it became obvious that the celebs views were somewhat different.

But yes.. in some cases the only reason you can think of.. is that a celeb does not want to be associated in any way with a gay website. Even a kick-ass one like ours

I think I know which one you mean too!

I must admit, I'm still surprised at how "well known" this place is! But what is nice is that half of the time, celebs on twitter with pics/discussion will often tweet a link to that thread, and in some cases respond to comments made via twitter.

Luckily there are some FM's that don't seem to care where publicity/attention comes from! Fans are Fans regardless!

At any rate, I appreciate the open communication about this.

Agreed!

[jumbler]

It makes you wonder if Darren knows about this himself??

[Ryan1981]

Don't forget that in a lot of cases it will be about the photographer's copyright and royalty entitlement. They can't charge some parties for the use of the images and then let us display them for free.

It all depends who owns the copyright.

[jumbler]

Do any guys actually end up getting deleted from the black list, because they're no longer famous?? So no-one wants to perve over them any more.

Just wondering. (And if they did, would it make any difference?? )

This post has been edited by jumbler: May 12 2012, 02:06

[ladsnet]

No

We mods discussed this not long ago, in an effort to reduce the blacklist 'list' and not make it look SO draconian..

but the consensus was that once we've been told not to show pics, then that's what we've been told. If a request stated a timeframe it would be different.. but they never do.

So once on the list.. always on the list I'm afraid

[DevlinDiablo]

i think a lot of it has to do with certain FM's not wanting to be assosciated with a deemed "gay website". which is so sad it's laughable, really.

[JG220]

^ After playing a gay character, on one of the most high-profile, singing and dancing, gay-friendly shows of all time? Seems a little unlikely he'd care about his existing pictures showing up on FMF after all that, if he was worried about having too gay an image. Granted, the decisions of Darren and his publicist may not operate by the same logic that my mind does...

This post has been edited by JG220: May 27 2012, 23:29

[craigybabyxo]

I'm sorry but this just screams that he's being confused as being gay in reality - and people may see him on here, acting as homosexual in show and think he is, leading to press saying the same. He's probably had a lot of it, so his reps don't want him featured on here. I bet you that a forum for women isn't a problem though...

[BigBoy51]

No

We mods discussed this not long ago, in an effort to reduce the blacklist 'list' and not make it look SO draconian..

but the consensus was that once we've been told not to show pics, then that's what we've been told. If a request stated a timeframe it would be different.. but they never do.

So once on the list.. always on the list I'm afraid

i know you make the administrative choices you do for a reason. but it just makes no
sense whatsoever to me that young male celebs or their agents ask for you not to post
pictures of them when said sexy pics can be found on other picture pages like the image
galleries on Google or Yahoo. so it pains me to have to say this but when a young male
celeb or their agent ask you to not post pics its because they simply don't want to be associated
with a gay website. pure and simple. there's no other logical reason.

[justy_wusty]

I think you two need to re-read the comments above. To me it actually doesn't sound like it was Darren Criss or his agent. To me it might sound like it was a magazine or photographer who got angry at photos being posted on here. I don't think Darren Criss is at all homophobic, if he were he wouldn't play a gay character.